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Notre Dame Seminary Emphasizes Clinical Pastoral Education

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By Erika Anderson, Staff Writer

NEW ORLEANS—Joe Shaute was flying back to Atlanta from a pilgrimage to Rome, Italy, when God spoke to him.

“The Lord’s message to me was ‘New Orleans is in your future.’”

Little did Father Shaute, ordained this past July, know that New Orleans and Notre Dame Seminary would continue to influence his life and his ministry even after he graduated.

Father Shaute, a parochial vicar at St. Joseph’s Church in Marietta, attended Notre Dame Seminary from 1996 to 2001, graduating summa cum laude with his master of divinity degree. During his initial visit to the seminary, he was struck by its grandeur.

“My first impression was just ‘wow,’” he said of the seminary’s main building. “It’s just one of those ‘wow’ buildings, just very impressive. You see this heavy French furniture and French paintings. It’s an intimidating building, but the people who are there are what give the place so much life.”

The life of Notre Dame Seminary began when the cornerstone was laid for the handsome chateau-like building on May 7, 1922. The seminary began functioning on Sept. 18, 1923, with 25 students from three Louisiana dioceses registering for philosophy and theology courses. In 1925 the archbishop of New Orleans’ residence was built next to the seminary.

From the 1920s until 1967, the Marist Fathers of the Washington Province were in charge of the seminary. The first rector was Father Charles Dubray, SM. The number of students remained small through the formative years, not exceeding 60 until September 1932.

In the early 1950s, as enrollment proved too large for the 90 students’ rooms, Archbishop Joseph Francis Rummel dedicated funds, raised to memorialize his 25th anniversary as a bishop and his 50th as a priest, to build St. Joseph Hall. St. Joseph Hall has student and faculty rooms, the seminary library with a capacity for 200,000 volumes, and an auditorium.

A few noteworthy events have occurred during the past decade which have become a part of the seminary’s history. Outstanding among those was the visit of Pope John Paul II in 1987. Not only was this the first visit of any pope to New Orleans, but for the two nights of his sojourn the pope slept in the residence of the New Orleans archbishop, and the first enthusiastic group to greet the pope were Notre Dame seminarians.

Notre Dame Seminary is located in the Carrollton section in the heart of New Orleans, a world-renowned center of festivities including Mardi Gras and Jazzfest, which features local, national and international music, arts and crafts and delicious food.

New Orleans also offers many opportunities for pastoral fieldwork, an essential part of the formation at Notre Dame Seminary.

“Notre Dame is regarded for its pastoral formation,” Father Shaute said. “They are training you to be a pastor—that is the focus. In classes, they always make it a point of discussion: ‘How would this apply in a real life situation, in a parish?’”

Seminarians at Notre Dame are required to complete clinical pastoral education, a summer of ministry usually at a hospital. Father Shaute spent his CPE at St. Joseph’s Hospital in Atlanta one summer.

“CPE was one of the best experiences I had in my five years at Notre Dame,” he said.

As a parochial vicar at St. Joseph’s Church in Marietta, just a few blocks away from Kennestone Hospital, Father Shaute has had a great opportunity to apply his seminary education.

“My parish assignment has required me to draw on all my learning from seminary. The influence of Notre Dame is that ministry for me is less scary because once you’re done with CPE, you’re so exposed to so many different things that you will be thrown into as a priest. CPE gives you the sensitivity you need.”

Father Shaute said that students later follow up with faculty about their experiences in CPE.

“You go back to Notre Dame Seminary at the end of your summer and you have follow-up meetings. It’s not just about education and ministry—it’s about education, ministry and reflection,” he said. “You learn from your ministry and then, when you add that reflection, especially reflection with others, you create a powerful learning dynamic.”

“What Notre Dame is really good at is, at the classroom level you are trained in a particular subject, then during the summer you are put into a situation where those skills are put to good use,” he said. “They build their academic curriculum around the experiential part of your training. The learning, then application, is what makes the program so solid because those are woven together.”

Msgr. David Talley, former vocations director and now judicial vicar, said that he also completed CPE at his seminary, St. Meinrad in Indiana, and found the program so useful that he chose to make it a requirement for all Atlanta seminarians.

“I remember how difficult and how good it was for me,” he said. “And I have incredible respect for Notre Dame and their formation. At Notre Dame, CPE is an integral part of their formation experience.”

Another important part of formation at Notre Dame Seminary is the Acompaño program. All seminarians, usually after their first year of theology, take a 10-day mission trip to either the Yucatan in Mexico or to Nicaragua, in order to become more familiar with the missionary activity of the church.

“Part of it is helping to build homes, part of it is just cultural exposure, and part of it is that you are going to one of the poorest countries in the world,” Father Shaute said. “‘Acompaño’ means to accompany—it’s not like you’re going down there to be these great missionaries, changing people’s world. You’re going down there to be with people.”

Michael Windham, one of 11 Atlanta seminarians in formation at Notre Dame, who is in his last year of pre-theology, has already made his Acompaño trip.

“It helps you really come into contact with how we relate to others,” he said. “You can really relate to anybody when your heart is behind it, and you realize that you see God not only in yourself, but in the faces looking back at you.”

In Nicaragua and in New Orleans, Windham, 42, has fully immersed himself in his formation at the seminary, serving as head sacristan. He said he feels that the seminary is a “perfect match” for him.

“You have men from 20 to 60 years old. It’s a huge range of age. You also have a huge range of cultures. There are guys here from everywhere.”

Windham, who is originally from Birmingham, Ala., is scheduled to be ordained to the priesthood in 2006. He has been pleasantly surprised by the strong Catholic population in the Louisiana city.

“I couldn’t believe the number of Catholic churches. There is almost one on every street corner,” he said. “What really surprised me is that there are a lot of priests and Religious walking around. You don’t see that in Atlanta.”

Father Steven Yander, chaplain at St. Joseph’s Hospital in Atlanta, is an alumnus of Notre Dame who was ordained in 1974. He, too, enjoyed his experience in New Orleans.

“It was a very exciting time to be in the seminary in a major city. We were still dealing with Vietnam and a lot of protests,” he said. “The most important part of Notre Dame was to find spirituality as a diocesan priest and to be involved in the community in New Orleans.”

Father Yander recalled with fondness the Spirit-filled Masses at the seminary.

“Liturgy was always very important and very well done. Everyone sang because everyone wanted to be there,” he said. “It was a wonderful way to experience liturgy.”

In 2001, Windham said that the seminary experience forms a strong community.

“It allows us to form a brotherhood and a very close friendship—almost like a family because you go through the trials together,” he said.

Windham is also grateful to the faculty, who, he said, work closely with each seminarian.

“They want you to find out who you are and if the priesthood is a match,” he said.

Msgr. Talley said that the relationship between faculty and seminarians at Notre Dame is important.

“The student is an integral part of the evaluation process,” he said, adding that at most seminaries, the evaluation is written, but at Notre Dame, the seminarian meets with several members of the faculty, including the rector, as well as his vocations director or archbishop.

“If there were some tensions between a seminarian and a professor, when all your thoughts are written, you are never able to articulate that. When your evaluation is done live and in person, if a field education director or professor challenges a seminarian, he has the opportunity to respond and ask questions. It’s essentially a meeting of the minds, which is really the purpose of an evaluation.”

And though the final evaluation is a long way off for Windham, he doesn’t mind making the seminary his home for a while.

“Notre Dame is where I belong,” he said. “I have to honestly say that I really fit in well here.”

NOTRE DAME SEMINARY -- Built in 1922-23, the main building of Notre Dame Seminary in New Orleans is shown. The seminary serves the Archdiocese of New Orleans and other dioceses in the South as a center of theological studies and formation for the priesthood.
Photo by Frank Methe


WALKING WITH THE POOR -- At Notre Dame Seminary, all seminarians are required to take a mission trip to Mexico or Nicaragua after completing their first year of theology. Called “Acompaño,” the program introduces the men to the missionary work of the church in a spirit of humble service. Above the community is blessed with holy water during a mission trip.